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		<title>By: Year of the Monkey: Monkey In My Mind Year One &#124; monkeyinmymind.com</title>
		<link>http://monkeyinmymind.com/2008/07/26/caleb-campbell-casualty-of-militarys-integrity-vacuum/comment-page-1/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>Year of the Monkey: Monkey In My Mind Year One &#124; monkeyinmymind.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lot of attention and links from the Wicked Local Blog. Next is my follow-up post about Army baller Caleb Campbell who was drafted by the NFL&#8217;s Detriot Lions and drafted back by the military when they reneged [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lot of attention and links from the Wicked Local Blog. Next is my follow-up post about Army baller Caleb Campbell who was drafted by the NFL&#8217;s Detriot Lions and drafted back by the military when they reneged [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Green Bay Packers Taking Pointers from Former Bush Press Secretary &#124; monkeyinmymind.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Bay Packers Taking Pointers from Former Bush Press Secretary &#124; monkeyinmymind.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but as of now the Monkey and I can only construe the offer as further evidence of an &#8220;integrity vacuum&#8221; that permeates many strata of our culture, from the military to corporate America, to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casey:

Thanks for your thoughtful, informed reply.  You make several great points in your comment and I am honored to provide an opportunity for a fellow man in uniform to speak up on the matter.

When I was at the Academy, I actually supported this idea that later became a short-lived policy because I thought those individuals could serve as ambassadors and recruiters for the military in a different way.  Unorthodox?  Definitely.  Unpopular?  Maybe.  But I thought worth the cost.  I suggested that the NFL team who wishes to draft a player would pay the government back for a portion of their West Point training in exchange for the individual taking a reserve assignment.

If you&#039;re interested: &lt;a href=&quot;http://monkeyinmymind.com/?p=86&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here is the post&lt;/a&gt; I wrote when Campbell was first drafted, laying out my reasons for supporting the policy.

Regarding your point about athletes not staying in beyond their minimum commitment...that may be true but I know offhand of four of my classmates (3 corps squad football players) 1 soccer player who led very distinguished military careers and were some of the finest officers to wear the uniform.  Pat Work and Eric Oliver were both standout defensive guys and later became extremely successful Army Rangers.  Another friend of mine, &lt;a href=&quot;http://monkeyinmymind.com/?p=89&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jimmy Adamouski&lt;/a&gt;, was a soccer player and one of the first to die in Iraq, getting shot down in his Blackhawk in the opening months of the war.  I know these are just anecdotal examples but I am get the sense that many of the Corps Squad standouts served comparable stints to the non-corps squad graduates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey:</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughtful, informed reply.  You make several great points in your comment and I am honored to provide an opportunity for a fellow man in uniform to speak up on the matter.</p>
<p>When I was at the Academy, I actually supported this idea that later became a short-lived policy because I thought those individuals could serve as ambassadors and recruiters for the military in a different way.  Unorthodox?  Definitely.  Unpopular?  Maybe.  But I thought worth the cost.  I suggested that the NFL team who wishes to draft a player would pay the government back for a portion of their West Point training in exchange for the individual taking a reserve assignment.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested: <a href="http://monkeyinmymind.com/?p=86" rel="nofollow">here is the post</a> I wrote when Campbell was first drafted, laying out my reasons for supporting the policy.</p>
<p>Regarding your point about athletes not staying in beyond their minimum commitment&#8230;that may be true but I know offhand of four of my classmates (3 corps squad football players) 1 soccer player who led very distinguished military careers and were some of the finest officers to wear the uniform.  Pat Work and Eric Oliver were both standout defensive guys and later became extremely successful Army Rangers.  Another friend of mine, <a href="http://monkeyinmymind.com/?p=89" rel="nofollow">Jimmy Adamouski</a>, was a soccer player and one of the first to die in Iraq, getting shot down in his Blackhawk in the opening months of the war.  I know these are just anecdotal examples but I am get the sense that many of the Corps Squad standouts served comparable stints to the non-corps squad graduates.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The policy which allows a service academy grad to play pro sports was flawed from its inception.  The academies exist to provide leaders for our military, not jocks for our amusement.  However, the academies&#039; leadership groups badly wanted this policy to attract better athletes for their sports programs, in the misguided (IMHO) notion that better sports programs will lead to more visibility for the academies and more successful recruiting.  The problem with this is that they want to attract better athletes to have better sports programs, but they neglect the fact that of all major groups of cadets at the academies (they are categorized as scholars, leaders or athletes during admissions process), athletes have the lowest rates of staying on active duty beyond their minimum service obligation.  Their mindset is that of an athlete who happens to be a cadet, rather than a cadet who happens to be an athlete, and this flawed mindset affects their entire outlook towards serving their country.  So, I think the entire policy is misguided, contradictory to all that the academies stand for, and a very bad idea.  That said, Caleb Campbell is a fine young man who was playing by the rules as published at the time.  For the Army, or DOD for that matter, to pull a stunt like this on the day before he was to report to the Lions&#039; camp is dishonest, mean-spirited and just wrong.  Both DA and DOD were well aware, in the weeks before the draft, that he might be drafted.  At any time, they could have changed the policy and told him he was ineligible and that would have been the end of it.  Instead, they did the stupidest thing they could in the most ham-handed way they could.  Finally, guess what Caleb Campbell will likely be doing for the two years of active duty he has to serve.  Hint: he won&#039;t be going to Iraq or Afghanistan.  Instead, West Point has told him he will be serving as an assistant football coach for two years, and will then be eligible for the NFL draft again.  However, what will be the chances that any team will select him, or any other athlete, given the past performance by DA and DOD?  This stinks all around, and this poor kid is stuck in the middle, watching fools screw up every part of his professional life.  BTW, I am also a WP grad and a career officer, and this is my view from the couch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The policy which allows a service academy grad to play pro sports was flawed from its inception.  The academies exist to provide leaders for our military, not jocks for our amusement.  However, the academies&#8217; leadership groups badly wanted this policy to attract better athletes for their sports programs, in the misguided (IMHO) notion that better sports programs will lead to more visibility for the academies and more successful recruiting.  The problem with this is that they want to attract better athletes to have better sports programs, but they neglect the fact that of all major groups of cadets at the academies (they are categorized as scholars, leaders or athletes during admissions process), athletes have the lowest rates of staying on active duty beyond their minimum service obligation.  Their mindset is that of an athlete who happens to be a cadet, rather than a cadet who happens to be an athlete, and this flawed mindset affects their entire outlook towards serving their country.  So, I think the entire policy is misguided, contradictory to all that the academies stand for, and a very bad idea.  That said, Caleb Campbell is a fine young man who was playing by the rules as published at the time.  For the Army, or DOD for that matter, to pull a stunt like this on the day before he was to report to the Lions&#8217; camp is dishonest, mean-spirited and just wrong.  Both DA and DOD were well aware, in the weeks before the draft, that he might be drafted.  At any time, they could have changed the policy and told him he was ineligible and that would have been the end of it.  Instead, they did the stupidest thing they could in the most ham-handed way they could.  Finally, guess what Caleb Campbell will likely be doing for the two years of active duty he has to serve.  Hint: he won&#8217;t be going to Iraq or Afghanistan.  Instead, West Point has told him he will be serving as an assistant football coach for two years, and will then be eligible for the NFL draft again.  However, what will be the chances that any team will select him, or any other athlete, given the past performance by DA and DOD?  This stinks all around, and this poor kid is stuck in the middle, watching fools screw up every part of his professional life.  BTW, I am also a WP grad and a career officer, and this is my view from the couch.</p>
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		<title>By: hangemall</title>
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		<dc:creator>hangemall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not miss the point, the army changed its mind after pressure was placed on them by other branches of service. The Navy has a top notch pitcher who was drafted by the Cardinals but he was not permitted to vacate his commitments. The bottom line here is he knew there was a chance he&#039;d be forced to fulfill his contract with the Army and I find it commendable Mr. Campbell seems to be taking it well.  But if Mr. Campbell did his homework in college and indulged in recreational perusal of the news as it relates to the military complex he knows the military is notorious for flip flopping. I grew up military, we, as well as other groups, have a saying when referring to politicians and military statements and promises - &quot;They say, they say&quot;. The point is obvious so I&#039;ll not insult your intelligence. 
Again I&#039;ll cry a river for Mr. Campbell, he should have known better. He signed a contract with with a fickle partner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not miss the point, the army changed its mind after pressure was placed on them by other branches of service. The Navy has a top notch pitcher who was drafted by the Cardinals but he was not permitted to vacate his commitments. The bottom line here is he knew there was a chance he&#8217;d be forced to fulfill his contract with the Army and I find it commendable Mr. Campbell seems to be taking it well.  But if Mr. Campbell did his homework in college and indulged in recreational perusal of the news as it relates to the military complex he knows the military is notorious for flip flopping. I grew up military, we, as well as other groups, have a saying when referring to politicians and military statements and promises &#8211; &#8220;They say, they say&#8221;. The point is obvious so I&#8217;ll not insult your intelligence.<br />
Again I&#8217;ll cry a river for Mr. Campbell, he should have known better. He signed a contract with with a fickle partner.</p>
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		<title>By: Army's Caleb Campbell No Draft-Dodger &#124; monkeyinmymind.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Army's Caleb Campbell No Draft-Dodger &#124; monkeyinmymind.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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